It looks like Jon even used his own family. This is all of public record from the Minneapolis City Council Meeting.
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Who are Kurt and Constance Helgason? What is the relationship?
JOHNNY NORTHSIDE
you can look up the properties here:
http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/propertyinfo/
or
http://apps.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/AddressApp/SearchByAddress.aspx?AppID=PIApp
The City of Minneapolis Property Info will give you a lot of info including "owner(s)" and "taxpayer(s)." Under the "VALUATION HISTORY" you're find even more interesting things about the property... including "Property Valuation," "Rental History" and "Sales History"
ENJOY!
How can Johnny Northside contain himself? Here I go...
The property at 3243 6th St. N. (ID No 10 029 24 23 0124) was assessed $169.50 for snow removal on or about 1/19/06.
JOHNNY NORTHSIDE
The following information (unverified) was on the 4th Precinct Care Task Force website, which tracks problem properties in the 4th Precinct. As follows:
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4335 KNOX AVE N
3 Hispanic males went to purchase vehicle at this house. While inside, one was shot and then money taken from them. Property managed by Citywide Management-Ronnie Franklin-Kurt and Constance maybe related to Jon Helgason, CEO of TJ Waconia, 1994 Warbler Lane, St. Paul MN 55119 651.738.0588 (info shared by resident)
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JOHNNY NORTHSIDE
This is the URL for that 4th Precinct Task Force website. It's a great place to look up problem properties...well, as long as they are in the 4th Precinct.
http://4thprecinctcare.org/
Property ID: 10-029-24-23-0124
Address: 3243 6TH ST N
Municipality: MINNEAPOLIS
School Dist:
001 Construction year: 1900
Watershed:
6 Approx. Parcel Size: 46.00 X 157.00
Sewer Dist:
Owner Name: K HELGASON & C HELGASON
Taxpayer Name
& Address:
KURT & CONSTANCE HELGASON
3243 6TH ST N
MINNEAPOLIS MN 55412
Most Current Sales Information
Sales prices are reported as listed on the Certificate of Real Estate Value and are not warranted to represent arms-length transactions.
Sale Date: January, 2004
Sale Price: $212,000
Transaction Type: Warranty Deed
Tax Parcel Description
Addition Name: BAKERS 4TH ADDN TO MPLS
Lot: 003
Block: 033
Metes & Bounds:
Abstract or Torrens: ABSTRACT
Value and Tax Summary for Taxes Payable 2008
Values Established by Assessor as of January 2, 2007
Estimated Market Value: $194,500
Limited Market Value: $164,400
Taxable Market Value: $164,400
Total Improvement Amount:
Total Net Tax: $2,646.04
Total Special Assessments: $3,861.40
Solid Waste Fee: $26.04
Total Tax: $6,533.48 Taxes Due
Property Information Detail for Taxes Payable 2008
Values Established by Assessor as of January 2, 2007
Values:
Land Market $29,100
Building Market $165,400
Machinery Market
Total Market: $194,500
Land Limited $24,600
Building Limited $139,800
Total Limited: $164,400
Qualifying Improvements
Classifications:
Property Type RESIDENTIAL-TWO UNIT
Homestead Status NON-HOMESTEAD ---------------------
JOHNNY NORTHSIDE
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Property ID: 04-029-24-21-0191
Address: 4335 KNOX AVE N
Municipality: MINNEAPOLIS
School Dist:
001 Construction year: 1941
Watershed:
8 Approx. Parcel Size: 40 X 126.6
Sewer Dist:
Owner Name: K HELGASON & C HELGASON
Taxpayer Name
& Address:
KURT & CONSTANCE HELGASON
4335 KNOX AVE N
MINNEAPOLIS MN 55412
Most Current Sales Information
Sales prices are reported as listed on the Certificate of Real Estate Value and are not warranted to represent arms-length transactions.
Sale Date: May, 1996
Sale Price: $62,000
Transaction Type: Other - See Certificate of Real Estate Value (CRV)
Tax Parcel Description
Addition Name: THRALL-MCKENZIE COS OXFORD MANOR
Lot: 013
Block: 002
Metes & Bounds:
Abstract or Torrens: ABSTRACT
Value and Tax Summary for Taxes Payable 2008
Values Established by Assessor as of January 2, 2007
Estimated Market Value: $170,500
Limited Market Value: $170,500
Taxable Market Value: $170,500
Total Improvement Amount:
Total Net Tax: $2,706.69
Total Special Assessments: $4,637.63
Solid Waste Fee: $27.00
Total Tax: $7,371.32 Taxes Due
Property Information Detail for Taxes Payable 2008
Values Established by Assessor as of January 2, 2007
Values:
Land Market $29,900
Building Market $140,600
Machinery Market
Total Market: $170,500
Land Limited $29,900
Building Limited $140,600
Total Limited: $170,500
Qualifying Improvements
Classifications:
Property Type NON 4BB COMPLIANT
Homestead Status NON-HOMESTEAD
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JOHNNY NORTHSIDE
Property ID: 09-029-24-22-0094
Address: 3447 OLIVER AVE N
Municipality: MINNEAPOLIS
School Dist:
001 Construction year: 1912
Watershed:
8 Approx. Parcel Size: 31 X 126.4
Sewer Dist:
Owner Name: KURT & CONSTANCE HELGASON
Taxpayer Name
& Address:
KURT & CONSTANCE HELGASON
3447 OLIVER AVE N
MINNEAPOLIS MN 55412
Most Current Sales Information
Sales prices are reported as listed on the Certificate of Real Estate Value and are not warranted to represent arms-length transactions.
Sale Date: January, 2005
Sale Price: $194,000
Transaction Type: Warranty Deed
Tax Parcel Description
Addition Name: EGBERTS ADDN TO MPLS
Lot: 004
Block: 004
Metes & Bounds:
N 31 FT OF LOT 4
Abstract or Torrens: TORRENS
Value and Tax Summary for Taxes Payable 2008
Values Established by Assessor as of January 2, 2007
Estimated Market Value: $106,500
Limited Market Value: $106,500
Taxable Market Value: $106,500
Total Improvement Amount:
Total Net Tax: $1,376.58
Total Special Assessments: $678.80
Solid Waste Fee: $16.86
Total Tax: $2,072.24 Taxes Due
Property Information Detail for Taxes Payable 2008
Values Established by Assessor as of January 2, 2007
Values:
Land Market $15,300
Building Market $91,200
Machinery Market
Total Market: $106,500
Land Limited $15,300
Building Limited $91,200
Total Limited: $106,500
Qualifying Improvements
Classifications:
Property Type RESIDENTIAL
Homestead Status NON-HOMESTEAD
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Johnny Northside
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Property ID: 08-029-24-41-0110
Address: 2934 QUEEN AVE N
Municipality: MINNEAPOLIS
School Dist:
001 Construction year: 1922
Watershed:
7 Approx. Parcel Size: 40 X 127.5
Sewer Dist:
Owner Name: K HELGASON & C HELGASON
Taxpayer Name
& Address:
KURT & CONSTANCE HELGASON
2934 QUEEN AVE N
MINNEAPOLIS MN 55411
Most Current Sales Information
Sales prices are reported as listed on the Certificate of Real Estate Value and are not warranted to represent arms-length transactions.
Sale Date: April, 2004
Sale Price: $158,900
Transaction Type: Warranty Deed
Tax Parcel Description
Addition Name: PENN AVE ADDN TO MPLS
Lot: 024
Block: 002
Metes & Bounds:
Abstract or Torrens: ABSTRACT
Value and Tax Summary for Taxes Payable 2008
Values Established by Assessor as of January 2, 2007
Estimated Market Value: $143,000
Limited Market Value: $116,200
Taxable Market Value: $116,200
Total Improvement Amount:
Total Net Tax: $1,506.45
Total Special Assessments: $780.93
Solid Waste Fee: $18.40
Total Tax: $2,305.78 Taxes Due
Property Information Detail for Taxes Payable 2008
Values Established by Assessor as of January 2, 2007
Values:
Land Market $29,000
Building Market $114,000
Machinery Market
Total Market: $143,000
Land Limited $23,600
Building Limited $92,600
Total Limited: $116,200
Qualifying Improvements
Classifications:
Property Type RESIDENTIAL
Homestead Status NON-HOMESTEAD
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JOHNNY NORTHSIDE
These properties are one example of a problem I've highlighted elsewhere, such as the excellent "Behind The Mortgage" blog.
Note that, in each instance, the owners are listed as being at the address in question. And it's the same set of owners each time, Constance and Kurt Helgason.
This same thing comes up with Irene Thomas, the stripper who owned approximately ten Universal Mortgage properties. She was listed as being at the properties, not under her real home address of St. Cloud.
Now, I don't care how FLEXIBLE Irene Thomas the stripper might be--and I'm sure she's damn flexible--she can only live at one residence at a time.
The same individuals being at multiple addresses is, in effect, FALSE INFORMATION which is ignored and apparently tolerated within the Hennepin County property records system. That information should be purged and revised TODAY, with the true addresses of these individuals listed instead of letting matters slide.
And I've drawn the issue to their attention in an email but nothing has come of it.
This problem could be rectified (a little, anyway) if the county property database could be searched by NAME as well as things like PID and street address. Then somebody could say, "Whoah. WHOAH. There is no way Kurt and Constance Helgason could be using all these properties as their address. Something is amiss, here."
At great freaking effort I am going to type up and submit the "findings of fact" in this action.
For some reason, I can't copy and paste off the PDF files. So I'm going to have to type that sucker. But I'm dedicated like that. Please forgive, in advance, any typos.
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FINDINGS OF FACT
3243 6th Street N.
4335 Knox Avenue N.
3447 Oliver Avenue N.
2934 Queen Avenue N.
1.) Kurt and Constance Helgason of the below listed properties:
[Repeats addresses]
Mr. Jon E. Helgason applied for and was awarded rental licenses for all of the above listed properties with T.J. Waconia as the listed owner and Mr. Ronnie C. Franklin as the Property manager for the properties. Jon Helgason and Tom Balko are owners of T.J. Waconia.
2. The property located at 2639 Girard Ave. was condemned for being a boarded building on June 20, 2008. Persons with an interest in the property include Terry Koenigs, owner, T.J. Waconia, owner; Ronnie Franklin, Manager/contact person and Jon E. Helgason and Tom Balko as owners of T.J. Waconia.
3.) The property located at 3234 Humboldt Avenue N. was condemned for being a boarded building on August 29, 2007. Persons with an interest in the property include Richard Miller, owner; T.J. Waconia, owner; Ronnie Franklin, manager/contact person and Jon E. Helgason and Tom Balko as owners of T.J. Waconia.
4. The property located at 1207 Knox Avenue N. was condemned for being a boarded building on September 27, 2006. Persons with an interest in the property include Diane Miller, owner; T.J. Waconia, owner; Ronnie Franklin, manager/contact person and Jon E. Helgason and Tom Balko as owners of T.J. Waconia.
(To be cont...)
5.) The property located at 3229 Humbolt Avenue N. was condemned for being a boarded building on February 16, 2007. Persons with an interest in the property include Diane Miller, owner; T.J. Waconia, owner; Ronnie Franklin, manager/contact person and Jon Helgason and Tom Balko as owners of T.J. Waconia.
6.) The property located at 3306 James Avenue N. was condemned for being a boarded building on July 18, 2007. Persons with an interest in the property include Greenland Properties, owner; T.J. Waconia, owner, Ronnie Franklin, manager/contact person; Tamara Peltan [sic] and Michael Pletan as owners of Greenland Properties and Jon E. Helgason as owners of T.J. Waconia.
7. The property located at 3240 Sheridan Avenue N. was condemned for being a boarded building on October 19, 2006. Persons with an interest in the property include Greenland Properties, owner, T.J. Waconia, owner; Ronnie Franklin, manager/contact person; Tamara Peltan [sic] and Michael Pletan as owners of Greenland Properties and Jon E. Helgason and Tom Balko as owners of T.J. Waconia.
[to be cont.]
8. The property located at 3235 Vincent Ave. N. was condemned for being a boarded building on October 9, 2007. Persons with an interest in the property include Joe Althaus, owner and manager/contact person.
9. MCO 244.1925 states: condemned and boarded buildings. When a building is condemned as hazardous or unfit for human habitation due to defects in its structure or its electrical, plumbing, or mechanical systems, or boarded under Minnesota Statutes, Section 463.251, requiring a code compliance inspection prior to re-occupancy, the rental dwelling license shall be cancelled on the effective date of the condemnation or boarding. The dwelling shall be eligible to hold a rental dwelling license upon issuance of a code compliance certificate.
10. The rental licenses for the properties at 2693 Girard Avenue N; 3234 Humboldt Avenue N; 1207 Knox Avenue N.; 3229 Humboldt Avenue N.; 3306 James Avenue North and 3235 Vincent Avenue N. were canceled on the effective date of the condemnations pursuant to MCO 244.1925. The persons who had an interest as an owner/license or manager in those properties were Terry Koenigs (one property); Tamara Peltan and Michael Pletan (three properties); Joe Althaus (one property); Ronnie Franklin (five properties) and Diane and Richard Miller (one property each)
[to be cont]
MCO 244.1910 (13) states: Any person(s) who has an interest in two (2) or more licenses revoked pursuant to this article or canceled pursuant to section 244.1925 or a combination of revocations or cancellations shall be ineligible to hold or have an interest in a rental dwelling license or provisional license for a period of five (5) years.
12. On November 9, 2007 a Notice of Director's Determination of Non-Compliance was sent to Jon E. Helgason, Ronnie Franklin, T.J. Waconia and Kurt and Constance Helgason to notify the persons of interest that the 4 properties listed above were in violation of MCO 244.1910 (13) in that the owner, licensee or manager of the properties had 2 or more licenses revoked or cancelled. The persons of interest were given until November 19, 2007 to bring the building into compliance.
13. The properties listed above were not brought into compliance by November 19, 1007 as the owner, licensee and manager remained the same at the properties.
14.) On November 30, 2007 a Notice of Revocation, Denial, Non-Renewal, or Suspension of Rental License or Provisional License was sent to Kurt and Constance Helgason, Jon E. Helgason, Tom J. Balko and Ronnie Franklin regarding the 4 above listed properties based upon violation of MCO 244.1910(13).
15. The individuals with an interest in the property had fifteen days from the receipt of the Notice of Revocation, Denial, Non-Renewal or Suspension of Rental License or Provisional License to appeal.
16. None of the individuals with an interest in the property appealed the Notice of Revocation, Denial, Non-Renewal, of [sic] Suspension of Rental License or Provisional License.
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JOHNNY NORTHSIDE
johnny, you might be the biggest loser i've ever seen. You need a girlfriend to occupy your time. The fact that you spend time searching for what amounts to be nothing is more of a story than what you're looking for. You are truely a psychological case study.
To the person that doesn't think people can be at more than one address. That information is the same for every owner in the state, whoever owns the property is listed at the property whether they live there or not, unless they change it with the city which doesn't make it non-owner occupied, it just gives a different mailing address for the city and county, idiot.
3229 Humboldt Ave. N. is a blight on the neighborhood. Here is what the 4th Precinct Task Force website has to say:
Young men using front stoop loitering. House boarded, yard overgrown.Real eyesore to block..Vacant Building Registration had been due 3.20.07 per 311. ************** **Sheriffs Sale 10.04/JPMorgan/Chase Bk deeded to TJWaconia 11.4.05 TJWaconia deeded to Tamara Pletan 2.17.06 Tamara Pletan Quick Claim Deed to Greenland Prop. Llc 2.20.06 ALL 3 DEEDS FILED 3.3.2006 Tj paid $390.66 DeedTax on $114,900. Tam pd $612.00 DeedTax which figures to $180,000.00 - based on $3.40 tax per $1000.00 did the math! Greenland had no deedtax amt. Increase of $65,000.00 from 11.4.05 to 2.17.05 - no improvements and my guess place vacant since last renter when water bill paid 10.25.06.
Inspection Inspections
Market Status Not on Market
Neighborhood Folwell
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JOHNNY NORTHSIDE
3229 Humboldt Ave., more from the 4th Precinct website:
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Report made that the upstairs windows facing front to street, have been broken out. Bottom of property is boarded. 311 Ref# 146240.
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Squatters, I presume? Also, assessed $86.10 for snow removal on 2/17/2006.
JOHNNY NORTHSIDE
Search Tips Property Information Search Result
Property ID: 09-029-24-43-0176
Address:
2639 GIRARD AVE N
Municipality: MINNEAPOLIS
School Dist:
001 Construction year: 1900
Watershed:
6 Approx. Parcel Size: 42.6 X 126
Sewer Dist:
Owner Name: TERRY KOENIGS
Taxpayer Name
& Address:
TERRY KOENIGS
13120 LAKAMAGA TR
SCANDIA MN 55073
Most Current Sales Information
Sales prices are reported as listed on the Certificate of Real Estate Value and are not warranted to represent arms-length transactions.
Sale Date: May, 2005
Sale Price: $232,000
Transaction Type: Warranty Deed
Tax Parcel Description
Addition Name: FAIRMOUNT PARK ADDN TO MPLS
Lot: 005
Block: 030
Metes & Bounds:
Abstract or Torrens: ABSTRACT
Value and Tax Summary for Taxes Payable 2008
Values Established by Assessor as of January 2, 2007
Estimated Market Value: $191,000
Limited Market Value: $150,100
Taxable Market Value: $150,100
Total Improvement Amount:
Total Net Tax: $2,415.56
Total Special Assessments: $6,573.15
Solid Waste Fee: $23.77
Total Tax: $9,012.48 Taxes Due
Property Information Detail for Taxes Payable 2008
Values Established by Assessor as of January 2, 2007
Values:
Land Market $24,300
Building Market $166,700
Machinery Market
Total Market: $191,000
Land Limited $19,100
Building Limited $131,000
Total Limited: $150,100
Qualifying Improvements
Classifications:
Property Type RESIDENTIAL-TWO UNIT
Homestead Status NON-HOMESTEAD
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Property ID: 09-029-24-13-0124
Address: 3234 HUMBOLDT AVE N
Municipality: MINNEAPOLIS
School Dist:
001 Construction year: 1925
Watershed:
6 Approx. Parcel Size: 45.00 X 124.00
Sewer Dist:
Owner Name: RICHARD MILLER
Taxpayer Name
& Address:
RICHARD MILLER
15741 AZURITE ST N W
RAMSEY MN 55303
Most Current Sales Information
Sales prices are reported as listed on the Certificate of Real Estate Value and are not warranted to represent arms-length transactions.
Sale Date: May, 2005
Sale Price: $136,000
Transaction Type: Other - See Certificate of Real Estate Value (CRV)
Tax Parcel Description
Addition Name: SILVER LAKE ADDN TO MPLS
Lot: 022
Block: 005
Metes & Bounds:
Abstract or Torrens: ABSTRACT
Value and Tax Summary for Taxes Payable 2008
Values Established by Assessor as of January 2, 2007
Estimated Market Value: $136,000
Limited Market Value: $136,000
Taxable Market Value: $136,000
Total Improvement Amount:
Total Net Tax: $1,781.65
Total Special Assessments: $636.53
Solid Waste Fee: $21.54
Total Tax: $2,439.72 Taxes Due
Property Information Detail for Taxes Payable 2008
Values Established by Assessor as of January 2, 2007
Values:
Land Market $25,600
Building Market $110,400
Machinery Market
Total Market: $136,000
Land Limited $25,600
Building Limited $110,400
Total Limited: $136,000
Qualifying Improvements
Classifications:
Property Type RESIDENTIAL
Homestead Status NON-HOMESTEAD
Property ID: 09-029-24-24-0014
Address: 3229 HUMBOLDT AVE N
Municipality: MINNEAPOLIS
School Dist:
001 Construction year: 1916
Watershed:
6 Approx. Parcel Size: 40 X 125.3
Sewer Dist:
Owner Name: GREENLAND PROPERTIES LLC
Taxpayer Name
& Address:
GREENLAND PROPERTIES LLC
8881 KIMBERLY LA N
MAPLE GROVE MN 55311
Most Current Sales Information
Sales prices are reported as listed on the Certificate of Real Estate Value and are not warranted to represent arms-length transactions.
Sale Date: November, 2005
Sale Price: $114,900
Transaction Type: Warranty Deed
Tax Parcel Description
Addition Name: JAMES AVE ADDN TO MPLS
Lot: 004
Block: 001
Metes & Bounds:
Abstract or Torrens: ABSTRACT
Value and Tax Summary for Taxes Payable 2008
Values Established by Assessor as of January 2, 2007
Estimated Market Value: $113,000
Limited Market Value: $113,000
Taxable Market Value: $113,000
Total Improvement Amount:
Total Net Tax: $1,480.34
Total Special Assessments: $3,348.71
Solid Waste Fee: $17.89
Total Tax: $4,846.94 Taxes Due
Property Information Detail for Taxes Payable 2008
Values Established by Assessor as of January 2, 2007
Values:
Land Market $23,600
Building Market $89,400
Machinery Market
Total Market: $113,000
Land Limited $23,600
Building Limited $89,400
Total Limited: $113,000
Qualifying Improvements
Classifications:
Property Type RESIDENTIAL
Homestead Status NON-HOMESTEAD
Property ID: 09-029-24-24-0125
Address: 3306 JAMES AVE N
Municipality: MINNEAPOLIS
School Dist:
001 Construction year: 1947
Watershed:
6 Approx. Parcel Size: 42 X 127.9
Sewer Dist:
Owner Name: GREENLAND PROPERTIES LLC
Taxpayer Name
& Address:
GREENLAND PROPERTIES LLC
3306 JAMES AVE N
MINNEAPOLIS MN 55412
Most Current Sales Information
Sales prices are reported as listed on the Certificate of Real Estate Value and are not warranted to represent arms-length transactions.
Sale Date: November, 2004
Sale Price: $199,000
Transaction Type: Warranty Deed
Tax Parcel Description
Addition Name: SYLVAN PARK ADDN TO MPLS
Lot: 016
Block: 002
Metes & Bounds:
Abstract or Torrens: TORRENS
Value and Tax Summary for Taxes Payable 2007
Values Established by Assessor as of January 2, 2006
Estimated Market Value: $151,500
Limited Market Value: $150,800
Taxable Market Value: $150,800
Total Improvement Amount:
Total Net Tax: $2,035.63
Total Special Assessments: $80.98
Solid Waste Fee: $23.69
Total Tax: $2,140.30
Property Information Detail for Taxes Payable 2007
Values Established by Assessor as of January 2, 2006
Values:
Land Market $20,800
Building Market $130,700
Machinery Market
Total Market: $151,500
Land Limited $20,700
Building Limited $130,100
Total Limited: $150,800
Qualifying Improvements
Classifications:
Property Type RESIDENTIAL
Homestead Status NON-HOMESTEAD
Relative Homestead
Agricultural
Exempt Status
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PLEASE NOTE THIS IS OLD INFO
FOR 3306 James Avenue N. The owner is currently listed as some bank with a mortgage.
This is the current owner listed at 3306 James Ave N.
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Owner Name:
REGIONS BANK
Taxpayer Name
& Address:
REGIONS MORTGAGE
1900 CHARLES BRYAN
CORDOVA TN 38016
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Might have been left holding the bag, considering how things have been going, here...
I didn't dig into 1207 Knox Ave. N. because I already dug up info on that property and posted it on Behind The Mortgage Dot com. Covering the same ground twice would bore me.
It was getting my hands on a list of addresses and finding how easy it was to dig up information which set me on this whole path when, really, all I ever wanted was an affordable house on the North Side!
Amazing how many houses are involved. Here comes more info...
This is the current owner of 3240 Sheridan Ave. N., but it shows as another "Greenland" property for the prior year.
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Owner Name: NATL CITY R E SERVICES LLC
Taxpayer Name
& Address:
NATL CITY R E SERVICES LLC
PO BOX 1820
DAYTON OH 45401
I can't make heads or tails of why the property at 3235 Vincent Ave. N. is listed on the findings of fact. And yet there it is.
Searching the property doesn't turn up Joe Althaus as the owner, but this entity:
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Owner Name:
THE BANK OF NEW YORK TRUSTEE
Taxpayer Name
& Address:
WELLS FARGO BANK N A
ATTN FRCLSRE DPT MACX7801013
3476 STATEVIEW BLVD
FORT MILL SC 29715
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Shows up for the prior year, too.
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IN REGARD TO ALL THESE LISTINGS: the inclusion of a name does not automatically mean the person is accused of anything or did anything wrong. There might be the names of victims.
These are public property records, easily found using the addresses listed in the action by the City of Minneapolis involving T.J. Waconia properties.
Is this idiot - Johnny Northside -for real? Dude you really need to get a life. It must really suck being you. You spend your days and nights researching this crap, for what? Does it turn you on? And then to have the time to type it out to, I don't give a sh-t how fast you can type, do you really have this much time to waste. You need more to do.
Lame, name-calling comments lacking substance will not deter Johnny Northside from his mission. You're right. This turns me on. Big time.
Here are some things I'd like to know so I can take this thing to the next level:
1.) What are all the addresses of TJ Waconia properties? ALL OF 'EM.
2.) In what other states (if any) was TJ Waconia licensed to do business?
JOHNNY NORTHSIDE
Man does he need help, hurry someone, get a shrink. QUICK!
Here's a fairly comprehensive list. Do with it as you will.
1651 SHERIDAN AVE N
3739 DUPONT AVE N
5139 39TH AVE S
3300 EMERSON AVE N
3554 ALDRICH AVE N
3546 HUMBOLDT AVE N
1706 VINCENT AVE N
7079 139TH AVE NW (Anoka Cty)
3322 RUSSELL AVE N
3346 NEWTON AVE N
3442 COLFAX AVE N
3706 DUPONT AVE N
3911 ALDRICH AVE N
3635 BRYANT AVE N
2626 TAYLOR ST NE
1703 LINCOLN ST NE
4417 VAN BUREN ST NE (Anoka Cty)
7077 139TH AVE NW UNIT 78 (Anoka Cty)
7094 139TH AVE NW UNIT 64 (Anoka Cty)
7084 139TH AVE NW UNIT 53 (Anoka Cty)
7057 139TH AVE NW (Anoka Cty)
7074 139TH AVE NW UNIT 56 (Anoka Cty)
1259 TAYLOR ST UNIT 13 (Scott Cty)
3434 MORGAN AVE N
1033 DWANE ST (Dakota Cty)
2623 LINCOLN ST NE
3323 GIRARD AVE N
3219 WASHBURN AVE N
7077 NEWBURY RD (Washington Cty)
8533 CARDIFF LN
7075 NEWBURY RD
7080 ARTHUR DR (Washington Cty)
3551 COLFAX AVE N
1259 TAYLOR ST UNIT 2 (Scott Cty)
8500 CARDIFF LN
6892 E CRAIG CT (Dakota Cty)
3946 LYNDALE AVE N
6830 E CRAIG CT (Dakota Cty)
2934 QUEEN AVE N
3330 NEWTON AVE N
129 COMO AVE (Ramsey Cty)
3927 DUPONT AVE N
4735 FREMONT AVE N
3443 JAMES AVE N
3319 RUSSELL AVE N
1259 TAYLOR ST UNIT 12 (Scott Cty)
8523 CARDIFF LN
8518 CARDIFF LN
8535 CARDIFF LN
3558 HUMBOLDT AVE N
3914 74TH ST E (Dakota Cty)
2639 GIRARD AVE N
3431 JAMES AVE N
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7076 139TH AVE NW UNIT 57 (Anoka Cty)
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1269 TAYLOR ST UNIT 16 (Scott Cty)
14630 CHROME AVE W (Dakota Cty)
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I think I just got dumber having read anything that JN has ever typed. And so little Johnny, what does all of this accomplish? You think you're a big slueth, the FBI has had this for months and it's all available as a public record. All you're doing over and over is proving to the readers that A)You might be the biggest loser ever, seriously. B) You're proving a point like the unibomber proves a point. C)They might actually be right that you do need help, something to think about. D)Your "hobby" is starting to border on stalking and obsession, and moving towards scary.
I sure hope in the future we are not posting on a blog about "what made JOHNNY NORTHSIDE snap and open fire in a crowd of children"
Sure seems to be alot of offended idiots here John. Keep it up . they are scared, as they should be ...........................................................................................................................tHe VoIcE
I agree that the FBI can do a better job investigating. But there are a lot of us that can benefit from this information long before the Feds release it.
I happen to appreciate JNS being around and digging up information. He has always tried to benefit the victims.
Thanks JNS....
Victim T
This was posted on Topix, by: Honest in Mpls.
"Let's be honest for a moment. North is what it will always be. The city has dumped millions over the years trying to fix it and it hasn't worked, almost like raising taxes to make up for shortfalls, it's never worked. No one thinks what happened is a good thing. It's happened before and will, I repeat will happen again, people are already snapping those places up waiting for a turn in the market to do it again. Don't be fooled it WILL happen again. The "victims" that seem to like to point the finger must remember one thing, if you signed one document you are an accomplice, you participated in fraud whether you knew it or not. If you mailed anything at all that applies to your purchase you committed mail fraud, the very thing they are going after T&J for, for which every occurance is chargable. You are all adults, trusting someone that screwed you only makes you guilty of trying to make a quick buck without doing any homework as to what's right and what's wrong. If you received one dime for making the purchase, you committed mortgage fraud, if you didn't inform the bank ahead of time.
It's easy to blame these guys because they are the idea guys that put it together, but when the crime boss tells his guy to rob a bank and he does it, the driver is still a part of it for driving him away from the scene even if he didn't know it was going to happen. Be careful how much you blame others, if you participated at all, you are an accessory to fraud...whoops.
Now all things considered, you will probably be ok, the feds go after the big fish, but as they get time, or see a name more than once, they'll be building a case against the "victims" long before you answer the knock at the door.
I understand the venting and bitterness, but it really is time to let it go. You will never see a dime, they'll use it all on attorneys, and you'll never be satisfied with the outcome. So they do three years in a white collar prison. You are saying, "at least they were found guilty" so what? Assume they will be and go back to your lives and spend time with your kids and family, you'll be the better people for it. You want a perfect example? How much time has Johnny Northside spent "digging" and what else could he have done with all that time, or even you and your time?"
See Hoffy, someone else thinks your an idiot also. The only person i seen on here defending you is Victim T. Doesnt suprise me, she has one person responding to her, which would be you.
Minnesota Trial Court Public Access (MPA) Remote View
http://pa.courts.state.mn.us/default.aspx
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enjoy!
Come on you people, do you really belive you are going to get anything? You are living in a dream. Wake up, and snap out of it.....
Thanks so much for the list! It's going to take a long time to work my way through it. Since the list is so extensive, I will probably just compile names of various owners and post those at some point.
I also need to know what other states (if any) TJ Waconia was licensed in. Media in those various states might be convinced to do stories, even if it is a brief blurb, "Mortgage fraud investigation touches State X," something like that.
JOHNNY NORTHSIDE
I'm working through the list on the Minneapolis and Hennepin County website (so far) and some familiar names and entities turn up.
Some unfamiliar names and entities, too.
What is the SOURCE of this list? It is looking like a useful list, but where did it come from?
JOHNNY NORTHSIDE
Go Johnny Go, as I am sure you have nothing better to do this weekend. Can you people say LONELY.
I feel for ya dude.
I emailed with a guy who is something of an expert, and he was surprised the list wasn't a lot longer. I'm certainly going to have some fun with the list, but will the source of the list please try to answer:
Is the list complete or partial? Explain.
Where did the list come from? Is it off a warrant? Is it from one of the neighborhood associations which investigated this stuff? What is the source of the list?
JOHNNY NORTHSIDE
It's about half of them. Right now Johnny it's killing you that I know that, and I didn't even have to do any "digging", I'm just smarter and know where to go. ha-ha-haha-ha
Oh. You got me. It's killing me. I'm tearing my hair out.
You would frustrate me even further by providing the other half of the list or showing me where you found the list, so quickly and easily!
JOHNNY NORTHSIDE
Ahhh JNS I love to see you begging, but since you have all the time good luck. Here's your hint: It's actually on a big board.
http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/council/2008-meetings/20080229/PSRS20080220agenda.asp
Click on some of the "findings" links.
click on some of the "I don't have anything better to do links"
I found the findings. Wow, there are lots more addresses in there. This will keep me busy, by and by. I might have to wait until Spring Break to dig into all this data, but it's better than going to South Padre Island and getting VD, for sure.
JOHNNY NORTHSIDE
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Anonymous said...
Victim T - if you are so worried about n mpls, why don't you sell your big fancy home, or one of your vacation properties, and use that money to help rebuild n mpls.?
March 1, 2008 12:56 PM
Anonymous said...
First:
The remark above is just stupid. Individuals are perfectly free to have an opinion without any need to sell their possessions to show how deeply and sincerely they feel about a particular issue.
Second:
I'm one of the individuals who is "venting my ire" at the idiots who stand on the corners selling drugs on the North Side, where I am planning to buy a house in the next month.
I'm moving to the North Side to help the North Side, but that's not everybody's choice.
Allow me to "vent" a little more "ire," here, at the idiots who stand on the corners and sell drugs on the North Side.
Despite the harm TJ Waconia did to North Minneapolis, empty properties would be selling rather quickly if it wasn't for the open air drug markets. I've talked to some closing companies, and despite talk of a flat market, I'm told investors are snapping up properties when the properties hit rock bottom.
Just not so much on the North Side. They'll buy almost everywhere else, first, but not the North Side.
The folks who want to clean up the North Side should follow the "Lake Street Model," and crack down hard on crime, in particular the open air drug markets that are associated with the North Side the way Mount Rushmore is associated with South Dakota.
Yeah, it's great to point fingers at TJ Waconia. Lord knows I do it plenty myself. But allow me to offer the following metaphor, which may disgust you, but if you think about it you might see the truth in it:
TJ Waconia is like a bandit that robbed from the North Side, and left the North Side bleeding and cut. But the guys who sell drugs on the corners are like a pus-filled, festering infection in that painful wound.
You can't do much about the wound until you clean out the wound. The (alleged) robber has been identified, and everybody is confident indictment (or one heck of a plea bargain) will be forthcoming. So quite going on about the robber and CLEAN OUT YOUR INFECTED WOUND.
The North Side needs to crack down hard on the open air drug markets, instead of saying, "Oh, point your fingers at the TJ Waconia people, not the drug dealers."
Believe me...plenty of fingers are already being pointed at TJ Waconia, even if some of their defenders get on these blogs and say stupid stuff about the North Side always being "that way."
But a few idiot defenders of TJ Waconia shouldn't give the North Side a "free pass." Clearly, there is a serious lack of political will in the city and on the North Side, since the open air drug markets continue to exist and thrive.
TJ Waconia will get theirs. But the open air drug markets are a huge problem on the North Side, and instead of calling for less "ire" to be vented at the dealers, there needs to be a lot more ire.
In fact, I think the Minneapolis Police Department should start posting the names, pictures, and addresses of every person arrested for dealing on the North Side for the past several months, and keep on doing it.
I would also like to see pictures of Balko, Helgason, etc. I can't picture these characters. Inquiring minds want to know.
Both the drug dealers and the (alleged) mortgage fraudsters are bad, and they are both doing great harm to the North Side.
Ironically, when this is all done and the (alleged) fraudsters do their time in a white collar prison, when they get out a house in the worst part of the North Side may be all they'll be able to afford.
I go back and forth on whether there will ever be true justice, but some days I feel like it might be possible.
JOHNNY NORTHSIDE
March 1, 2008 2:31 PM
Anonymous said...
That should say "quit" going on about the robber, and clean out the infected wound.
Not "quite."
"Quit."
Quit minimizing the harm of the open air drug markets, crack down hard, and clean up the North Side if those empty houses are ever going to sell. What TJ Waconia did is terrible, but a dismal lack of political will and minimizing criminal conduct is just making it worse.
Folks who have an open mind about the North Side go there to look at a few properties, lay their eyes on the open air drug dealing by groups of young men on the corner, and turn around and never come back.
I've talked to folks who have had that experience.
JNS
March 1, 2008 2:37 PM
Victim T said...
Anonymous,
First of all, I can tell that you are related to the Helgason's or Balko's because you definitely have the gift of over evaluating a persons assets.
Second you obviously have never cared about anything beyond yourself or your little circle, because if you had, you never would make such a ridiculous statement.
Not that it is any of your business but since this mess has all started, we have donated money to help the home owners of North Minneapolis through an organization called The Housing Preservation Project. The only reason I bring up this excellent non-profit organization is in hopes anyone else is interesting in helping.
Not that I can imagine someone as self absorbed as yourself would ever consider assisting others.
BTW I grew up in Minneapolis and my father was a teacher and a coach at North High School for 30 years. I am extremely proud of what a great influence he had on so many students. So please, do not deminish the value of their community ever again.
Victim T
March 1, 2008 5:12 PM
Anonymous said...
JNS - Why would you want to live in that crack infested neighborhood? I am asuming, you don't have much money, and even if you don't why would you want to live there? Maybe that Victim T should live there, if she thinks it is so great. I guarantee she would think so highly if she herself actually lived there. Belive me, I did, and the shootings and drugs are horrible.
March 1, 2008 7:56 PM
Anonymous said...
Correction, she would NOT think so highly of North Mpls., if she lived down there
March 1, 2008 7:57 PM
Anonymous said...
Glad you asked.
First of all, if you just look at deals on houses, North Minneapolis is the place with all the incredible deals.
I sincerely believe North Minneapolis is going to turn around and become a much better neighborhood, maybe even a trendy sort of place, and that I can help bring about that transformation.
Part of that transformation needs to be getting rid of the crack dealers. That's why I keep calling for a "crack down." (Ha ha)
I think once there is the perception of safety and security, a new wave of residents will snap up the good deals on houses and help turn that place around.
And maybe I just have a sense of adventure.
Any defender of TJ Waconia is hardly fit to criticize me or what I've got. I won't be millions of dollars in debt on judgments and doing time in prison. Compared to where the TJ Waconia people are going, I'm well-to-do. Heck, I'm millions of dollars ahead!
JOHNNY NORTHSIDE
March 2, 2008 1:04 PM
Anonymous said...
So before TJ who was responsible for the state of N MPlS? JNS-"good deals on houses there" I guess your life truely isn't worth much, since now it's worth a good deal, doubt it, N Mpls is about a 20x20 block area and they have more murders than the rest of the state combined. That area has to want to clean itself up and it doesn't. You'll say that plenty there do but obviously plenty don't or it would be fixed. Start the apologizing for N Mpls now
March 2, 2008 8:15 PM
Anonymous said...
Believe me, I'm not going to be apologizing for North Minneapolis.
You're right, it needs to WANT to clean itself up. But I think it is possible to spur that kind of will (wanting to clean itself up) by holding up a mirror to North Minneapolis and telling the stories that need to be told.
And some of those stories might involve the GOOD things happening on the North Side. And, yes, there is some of that. I've seen it.
In the meantime, the sorry state of North Minneapolis doesn't give TJ Waconia a free pass. It shows how low they were willing to go. What connection did Balko or Helgason have to North Minneapolis? Did they grow up there? No. They just found an area ripe to pull off this kind of fraud, and structured their business accordingly.
You can explain a lot of behavior by how people grew up...if they grew up amid crime and deprivation, in a state of chaos, need, and violence.
Well, so what explains Tom and Jon? How was their life? How did they grow up? What made them this way? Did they grow up amid deprivation, violence and despair?
Some people willingly make a choice to turn toward evil, toward criminal behavior. At some level, that's a lot more contemptible than falling into the criminal behavior one sees in one's everyday environment.
No, the North Side doesn't get a free pass. But Tom and Jon were presented with choices and opportunities many on the North Side could only hope and dream of being presented with. And given such choices, such opportunities, they did white collar crime.
Yes, the North Side was bad, before. Now with the empty houses and squatters breaking inside, it's turning into another Detroit. It's like the difference between "really bad" versus "truly apocalyptic."
So enough with this "North Side was bad before." That's like finding a man with a broken leg, and breaking the arm holding his crutch. Shame, shame, shame.
I wish the indictment would hurry up and come. I wish justice would rain down from heaven. Rain, justice, rain.
JOHNNY NORTHSIDE
March 3, 2008 12:42 AM
Anonymous said...
Keep waiting JNS, keep waiting. ha haha ha
March 3, 2008 7:35 AM
Anonymous said...
JNS
You need to start being honest with yourself, you are just justifing your hobby. Hold up that mirror so you can give them another chance to say, " you don't know me and you don't know where I come from." Of course there are some good things, but a vast majority are bad. You think things like that can change, how's that middle east battle going, it's only been about 5000 years. Who has EVER, said T & J get a free pass or are not at fault? I think everyone on here agrees on what has happened but someone needs to explain how they held those properties for so many years when the other 1000+ properties gone bad across the cities lasts about 1 yr. It's time to tell yourself the truth, many, many have tried to invest and fix that area and so far batting .000. Society is a bell curve and somethings you just have to except for what they are. It's fine to let people live how they want to live, let's stop trying to fix what doesn't want to be fixed until it asks to be fixed, and one out of a hundred doesn't count. The broken leg-that's a week arguement, the comparison would be he broke his own leg and told you to leave it alone he wants it that way.
March 3, 2008 12:12 PM
Anonymous said...
indictment coming...........from the people
tHe VoIcE
March 3, 2008 12:55 PM
Anonymous said...
Bell curve? If there's a bell curve, you're standing on the wrong side of it. Seriously, where did you learn how to write and spell so you can make your points about my "week argument?" [sic]
JOHNNY NORTHSIDE
March 3, 2008 10:39 PM
Anonymous said...
Johnny - Are you for fu__ing real?
The best argument you have is commenting on someones spelling, and writing abilities? I see the comment about you pulling your hair out, you better be careful, there is not too much there the way it is. I seen a pic of you, now i know why you are so lonely and bored.
March 4, 2008 8:13 AM
Anonymous said...
Just a quick question... What does anyone one know about Kurt & Constance Helgason? I reciently found a home that I am considering buying in Maple Grove. The tax records show that it was purchased by Kurt & Constance Helgason on Jan 14th 2005 for $274,000.00. It is now listed at $214,900. Also it would seem that they currently like in Laguna Hills CA. I guess I was wondering 1) what is the relationship between Krut and Jon. 2) Did TJ Waconia (Jon) actually screwed his own family as well.
Also see this link for a documment that seems to connect Jon, Kurt Tom and several others.
http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/council/2008-meetings/20080229/docs/helgason.RCA.pdf
Thanks
March 5, 2008 12:47 PM
Anonymous said...
Just a quick question... What does anyone one know about Kurt & Constance Helgason? I recently found a home that I am considering buying in Maple Grove. The tax records show that it was purchased by Kurt & Constance Helgason on Jan 14th 2005 for $274,000.00. It is now listed at $214,900. Also it would seem that they currently like in Laguna Hills CA. I guess I was wondering 1) what is the relationship between Kurt and Jon. 2) Did TJ Waconia (Jon) actually screwed his own family as well.
Also see this link for a document that seems to connect Jon, Kurt Tom and several others.
http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/council/2008-meetings/20080229/docs/helgason.RCA.pdf
Thanks
March 5, 2008 12:49 PM
Anonymous said...
OK so my spelling sucks. Please forgive me.
March 5, 2008 12:55 PM
Anonymous said...
Here is my new blog, The Adventures of Johnny Northside.
http://adventuresofjohnnynorthside.blogspot.com/
I believe in an open discussion, but I'll be posting comments AFTER reviewing them, so if you're going to say something stupid, don't be whining if your little manifesto doesn't get posted.
JOHNNY NORTHSIDE
March 5, 2008 4:26 PM
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I am left only at this point, but to question the validity of the information on this website.“Victims” have told their story, now I ask myself, how much is fiction and how much is truth. I have arrived at the conclusion that the information on this website needs to be questioned. It was stated that Balko and Helgason “took 871K in a government grant in 2006 to help fix up the North side, what do you think that they did with the money”, direct quote from a “Victim”. When questioned as to the validity of this claim, a website was posted, by a “Victim” where you could see the information for yourself . As there appears to be more than 1 Victim, I cannot say if it would be the same person, but the city of origin appeared to be the same. I reviewed that document and was amazed that this “Victim” claimed that it was for fixing up the North Side. If someone would have done just a little reading they would see that this was not in fact a “grant”, but a Certified Development Company Loan made by the Small Business Administration. Also known as a SBA 504 Loan, and yes it also states that this “assistance type” was a loan,(both direct and guaranteed). You will notice that in that same section was also a spot for an amount if it was “Grants And Cooperative Agreements”, of which there is no amount listed, NOT a GRANT ! So with what was indicated and not wanting to discredit the statement entirely by this “Victim”, researched the SBA and their 504 Loan, maybe there was an error of sort. Don’t take my word for this – read the information on the link provided. It clearly states under Eligible Business,“loans cannot be made to businesses engaged in speculation or investment in rental real estate”. Not to mention that their Business Plans must be reviewed and approved, as well as what they are borrowing against becomes “collateral, and personal guarantees are required”. I understand that this can be quite a rigorous process, as this is a LOAN given by the Government.“Berettahunter” in this same blog “stated that this was a loan for Dancer’s Edge”, one of their previous companies. Last time I checked, Maple Grove was not a part of North Minneapolis. And I think I may say with certainty that the “collateral” had a lien placed on it by the SBA. I at this point have been left with no question in my mind that this was NOT used to “fix up the North Side” of Minneapolis.
http://www.sba.gov/services/financialassistan ...
Please forgive me, but I must also question all on this blog. One “Victim” indicated that they had been in court and received a judgement for money that was owed them. So once again I need to question the facts. Did they show up in court? Did they contest to the fact that they owed you money? If they did NOT appear a judgement in your favor would be entered. Inquiring minds. I apologize, I am be able to find the information on these blogs, but am not willing to waste any more time in reading these blogs to answer this question.
Interesting information - this appears to put a different slant on these allegations. Previously someone pointed out that some information has been deleted, and asked why - some victim claimed that it was because of "infidelity" reasons, which may or not be appropriate. They also alleged that there was a discrimination on the part of the so called victims and their agenda. More interesting is that this information regarding a "so called Grant" has been deleted. Can someone explain this??? Inquiring minds!
Johnny Northside - care to investigate this information??
March 6, 2008 9:31 PM
They are in trouble. Great articles.
Since the last comment on that long comment stream was *also* posted on my blog, I see fit to take my reply on that blog and post it here:
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No, I don't care to investigate that info.
As I've made clear on the "TJ Waconia victims blog" and the "Minnesota Topix" forum AS WELL AS the "TJ Waconia thread" at Behind The Mortgage Dot com, my sympathies in this case are with the victims.
Is it possible there is something complicated going on? That the victims may have flaws? I'm sure any story like this is complicated. But no matter how hard anybody digs into those facts, will it lead to JUSTIFICATION for the things done by Jon Helgason and Tom Balko?
I seriously doubt it.
However, I believe in a substantive conversation, and this comment is, beyond a doubt, substantive. So I'm leaving it up for now, in the spirit of Voltaire. I'm sure well-read people know what I mean about Voltaire.
Just to clarify some information on the "North Side" that many of these victims do not take under consideration. The entire Northside is not an open air drug market. There are many lovely neighborhoods of classic homes (colonials, bungalows, tudors) with working people living in them. The northside does have it's more troubled areas, but then so does the south side.
I can tell you that the majority of the properties TJ Waconia originally purchased north of Lowry Avenue were purchased from owner occupants for the market rate at the time (i.e. $145-160K). They bought them up fast, refinanced with strawman investors, pulled section 8 rentals into them, kept the refinance money, kept the section 8 rental money and drove these properties into the ground. The real victims are the lovely people that now have one of these homes on their block and could not sell no matter how nice their house is. We have many wonderful people here of all ages and backgrounds. We have restaurants, theatre, and community pride that is constantly belittled by people (as evidenced on these sites) that there is nothing good in North Minneapolis. This is pathetically wrong and is only done so people can ease their guilty conscience and classic prejudices that we, the citizens of North Minneapolis, somehow deserve this.
TJ Waconia seriously has caused more damage than any crime group we've ever had on the north side. They deserve to go to jail and lose as many of their ill-gotten possessions as possible. It's coming...
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