According to the US District Probation Office- District of Minnesota, no sentencing date has been set. They did say that it could be sometime in December, but that was not definite.
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Fox News is reporting that Victim T and the rest of the crybabies have recently "attempted to get a clue" (and life) but, both CBS News and CNN say, "It's too close to call."
Ha, good one.
We will see who's crying when they go off to prison.
Well, hopefully Victim T will be able to sleep again after it is all over.
People who have been impacted have asked about sentencing. What is wrong with trying to find out information?
Why don't you get a life and stay away from this site since you do not care about anyone but yourself including renters that have been impacted by TJ.
Hopefully they do not go to prison,then they can pay off all their judgements. Don't believe their are any? Guess again!
Start your own site.
OOOHH, someone must of struck a nerve. HA HA - I could really care less about their judgements, you were the fool that borrowed them money.
Oh, THIS is rich!
"Why don't you get a life and stay away from this site since you do not care about anyone but yourself including renters that have been impacted by TJ.
Hopefully they do not go to prison,then they can pay off all their judgements. Don't believe their are any? Guess again!"
Does anyone else see the irony in that statement?
Now they hope they DON'T go to prison so they can pay off their judgements???
Translation:
"I could care less about serving so-called Justice when there is a chance that I can get MY money back."
Go cry to Johnny.
That anti johnny blog is pretty funny, if you haven't seen it.
http://misadventuresofjohnnynorthside.blogspot.com/
Classic, now they don't want them going to jail! What a nut job.
Why are you clumping us all together "they"? I for one don't see why the taxpayers should pay for their prison stay. Why should they get free food and shelter for the next ? years. There are obviously others who do want justice and for them to go to prison.
Who said anything about the city of Minneapolis, the water and sewar companies, and the renters whose damage deposits were stolen "borrowing" them money.
You are the one that is a fool and is clueless.
Lost their damages deposits? Do you realize that most of their renters were welfare cases? How much money did they have to put up for a damage deposit?
Victim T - You seem to be in the know (?) - The sentencing date keeps being extended. Can you explain this to us novices??
What heartless evil people. They preyed on the poor, family members and friends. I bet those rental damage deposits meant a lot to those people, regardless of how little money it might be to you.
I agree, maybe it was not much money, but why should it be in Jon and Tom's pockets instead?
Last I heard, Jon and Tom's pockets are pretty empty. Good luck in getting anything from them.
Hey T - Come December, are you going to extend the sentencing date again? Do you truely know what is going on with this???
Can't you read? VT said the date was not definite.
Yes I can read, can you? There have been several dates posted on here, and NONE have been correct.
You are mentally/legally challenged. Thejudicial system changes dates all the time. Court dates, mediation dates, trial dates and yes sentencing dates.
The important thing is that once the date we have all been waiting for is here. Many people will be in the court room to cheer them onto PRISON!!
Wait a minute, I thought we did not want them to go to prison now. Us tax payers do not want to have to house and feed them. Which way is it?
I want them to enjoy prison life. I have heard that the food is very good along with the dating life :))))))))
T - I do believe that you are the one that is mentally challenged. You post more incorrect information, than you do correct.
People may agree or disagree...it is a free country...but on my blog, johnnynorthside.com, I have written about my idea of "Let the punishment fit the crime."
It would cost the taxpayers less if Thomas Balko and Jon Helgason were required to LIVE OUT THEIR SENTENCE in one of their own houses in North Minneapolis.
They could stay within a one block area and do what we all do in North Minneapolis, as it now is with all the vacant houses from mortgage fraud, WORSE than it was BEFORE:
Plant flowers. Call 911. Pick up litter. Have one neighborhood meeting after another. Do photo surveillance of crack houses across the freaking street to make the case to police to get a warrant, do a raid, even though the 4th Precinct is WAY SHORT ON COPS and it's like pulling teeth, sometimes, to get action on open air drug markets.
Rinse, lather and repeat.
I know many want to see Tom and Jon in prison. Indeed, I'm not advocating so hard AGAINST that. I'm not defending them or saying they shouldn't go to prison. In fact, I've actually been researching the white collar prison situation in Minnesota a little bit by reading a book by former televangelist Jim Baker (sp?) who did his sentence in Rochester, Minnesota.
His book, "I Was Wrong," goes into glorious detail, including a recipe for "prison pizza" I hope to share soon on my blog. But I digress. Probably because I'm so hungry this moment...
Baker went to prison in Rochester because he had some mild medical conditions associated with depression and because he was a non-violent, white collar criminal. I know people have been saying Tom and Jon's prison sentence might happen in "Yankton, South Dakota" but nothing is definite. I can see where Rochester, Minnesota makes just as much sense.
But I keep advocating for a different idea. My "Let The Punishment Fit The Crime" idea, which is on my blog.
Consider this: what is Thomas Balko and Jon Helgeson's opinion of where they should go, if given a choice of prison or house arrest in North Minneapolis?
If they ACTUALLY WANT TO GO TO PRISON INSTEAD OF HOUSE ARREST IN NORTH MINNEAPOLIS then I say: send them to North Minneapolis, instead. Because they DON'T WANT TO GO THERE.
It will be spiritually good for them. I don't say this in a mean way. I know people are angry and they've been ripped off, but I haven't experienced that...so I have the luxury of a kind of objectivity by non-victimization.
I have no idea whether my idea, which I have promoted on my blog quite a bit, has gained ANY traction or ANY discussion with those involved. But this being the "sentencing" thread, perhaps it is a good place to have this discussion, if people want to.
Thanks.
Oh, P.S.
I concur with another comment...the court system changes dates all the time. The "not definite" December date was more information than I had before reading the original blog entry, so thank you, Victim T, thank you very much!
JNS, is a FREAK!
Hey Johnny, why don't you go back to your own pathetic web site, or is it too boring over there, as no one ever post? Loser!
Hey Johnny, why don't you go back to your own pathetic web site, or is it too boring over there, as no one ever post? Loser!
Oh come on now people, Victim T might get upset if we call her new BFF a loser.
For those who don't care for Johnny Northside, this blog site is good reading:
http://misadventuresofjohnnynorthside.blogspot.com/
Seems as tho Johnny is an investor now.
Hmm it cut off the end of the url.
Copy & paste these into your browser:
http://misadventuresofjohnny
northside.blogspot.com/
I would not give that piece of sh*t the satisfaction of reading his site. He is a WASTE!
Signed - ND hates Johnny dip sh*t.
Anonymous said...
I bet those rental damage deposits meant a lot to those people, regardless of how little money it might be to you.
September 17, 2008 10:09 AM
I think you miss the point, idiot. The majority of people in NMPLS, did not put their own money down for a damage deposit, it was us tax payers that did, they were on welfare. DUH!
What about all the others? There were many people that lost their damage deposits not just NMSP people. And why should the government lose their money and J & T get to keep it? Either way taxpayers or individuals, everyone lost their money to these seperpents once again.
There is simply NO WAY to justify them.
DAMN! - I just lost 15K in my 401k, hey T, who should I blame?
Jim, if your stock broker lied to investors, forged documents and took money under the table, then go after him.
Sorry to disappoint you, this is not Jim. I willingly signed up for my 401K, just like the victims that signed on the dotted line, when they invested their credit/money. They too thought they would get a return, but lost just like I did. So answer the question, who can I blame?
I don't know about you but my stock broker is not going to jail :))). Guess that is where the difference lies. There is a difference between being paid a fee and investing. Investing you may or may not get a return on your investment, in other words share in the profit or loss.
Now I will agree that some people who signed for many multiple properties on the same day knew something must be wrong. But most who signed just one were definitely SCAMMED!!
You are just bitter that people have them figured out.
People do have a right to blame someone for fraud. That is why there is a court system. If I remember correctly they have pled guilty to mail fraud resulting from a mortage scheme.
Again, guess that is why they are going to prison and the 401K managers are not.
Bitter, why in the hell would I be bitter? I could care less what happens either way, You are obviously the one that is bitter. Oh don't worry T, it will all be over soon.
I am not "T". Where is the coralation between a legitimate investment in a 401K and these scum? They are just country boys that were trying to play in the real world.
Is it really going to be over soon? Please do tell what you know.
HA - You would love to know, wouldn't you. Just ask T, she knows everything.
"Bitter, why in the hell would I be bitter? I could care less what happens either way, You are obviously the one that is bitter. Oh don't worry T, it will all be over soon."
Really? Why are you here then if you could care less? But then again nothing you seem to post makes sense.
now now T, no need to criticize people.
Sorry that was not me.
I currently do not have any updates, but as soon as we hear anytthing from the Probation office, I will post it.
Thanks,
T
Looks like Jon is paying someone. Even though he is claiming he has no money. There is also another
50K payment he made on the same day. I am sure it is to cover his own personal assets.
What a f*&King self preserver, while his friends and family suffer. Must be one of his personal mansions.
Debtor(s) Helgason, Jon
Creditor(s) Citizens State BAnk
Entered Date: 06/03/2008
Docketed: 08/04/2008 10:53 AM
Orig. Amount: $867,104.27
Curr. Principal: $823,832.62
Judicial Officer:
Type: Judgment - not all parties
Status: Active
Satisfactions
08/13/2008 Partial $50,000.00
So where does he have money hidden and how much is there?
On another note...please check out this recent story I wrote on my blog about TJ Waconia.
http://adventuresofjohnnynorthside.blogspot.com/2008/10/no-honor-among-thieves-day-tj-waconias.html
Did anybody notice THIS:
NOTICE OF FORECLOSURE SALE: Case No. 08-CV-295
Hudson Star-Observer
Published Thursday, October 02, 2008
STATE OF WISCONSIN, CIRCUIT COURT, ST. CROIX COUNTY
Hardy Credit Co., Plaintiff, vs. T.J. Land Trust, Inc., Jon E. Helgason, Thomas Balko and Heritage Greens of Hudson Community Association, Inc., Defendants.
PLEASE TAKE NOTICE that by virtue of a judgment of foreclosure entered on August 19, 2008 in the amount of $182,744.01, the Sheriff will sell the described premises at public auction as follows:
TIME: October 28, 2008 at 10 a.m.
TERMS: Pursuant to said judgment, 10% of the successful bid must be paid to the sheriff at the sale in cash, cashier’s check or certified funds, payable to the clerk of courts (personal checks cannot and will not be accepted). The balance of the successful bid must be paid to the clerk of courts in cash, cashier’s check or certified funds no later than ten days after the court’s confirmation of the sale or else the 10% down payment is forfeited to the plaintiff. The property is sold ‘as is’ and subject to all liens and encumbrances.
PLACE: On the East steps of the St. Croix County Courthouse, in the City of Hudson, St. Croix County.
DESCRIPTION: Lot 42, Heritage Greens First Addition, City of Hudson, St. Croix County, Wisconsin.
PROPERTY ADDRESS: 3 Kinsman, Hudson, WI 54016
Dennis D. Hillstead, Sheriff, St. Croix County, Wisconsin
GRAY & ASSOCIATES, L.L.P., Attorneys for Plaintiff, 600 N. Broadway, Milwaukee, WI 53202-5099
Pursuant to the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act (15 U.S.C. Section 1692), we are required to state that we are attempting to collect a debt on our client’s behalf and any information we obtain will be used for that purpose.
(Pub. Sept. 11 - Final Oct. 16)
Old news JNS, get with the program. Oh I see, you just had to come to this blog again, to try to pursue people to to yours. What a joke, you will always be.
Did anybody notice THIS about JNS?
City of Appleton vs. Judd Hoff, and John Hoff
Case Type: Civil Other/Misc.
Date Filed: 08/24/2006
Location: Swift
Defendant Hoff, John Appleton, MN 56208
Defendant Hoff, Judd Starbuck, MN 56381
Plaintiff City of Appleton
09/19/2007
Judgment (Judicial Officer: Stafsholt, Jon)
Monetary Award (Status: Active, Debtor: John Hoff, Debtor: Judd Hoff, Entered: 09/19/2007, Docketed: 09/19/2007, 10:46 AM, Original Principal: $3,228.93)
________________
Why don't you grandstand back on your own blog Johhny Boy.
Jackass
Yep - Good ol Johnny boy, really making a name for himself in MN. See you have just as many enemies here as well. ND hates JNS!
Trying to pass off old, outdated information as new information.
That's almost funny. I'm surprised anybody from North Dakota--a place that prides itself on common sense--would jump into an argument to help the professional fraudsters from TJ Waconia.
So John, now you are trying to pass yourself off as a SR DANCE MOM? It must be real lonely, being you!
Get it right Johnny, we are not jumping into an argument with anyone, just letting everyone know that you are a loser, always have been, and always will be. The reason we post on here, is because everytime we make a comment on your blog, you never post it, why is that Johnny? ND hate JNS
Yep, SR DANCE MOM - is John Hoff. Why you hidding your idenity John? And a women at that, your son must be so proud.
That judgement says it is still active.
Maybe this is more "current"
Register Of Actions
Case No. 82-VB-08-13920
State of Minnesota vs JOHN WILLARD HOFF
Case Type: Crim/Traf Non-Mand
Date Filed: 08/06/2008
Location: - Washington-Stillwater
Defendant HOFF, JOHN WILLARD
Appleton, MN 56208
Events & Orders of the Court DISPOSITIONS
08/13/2008 Plea (Judicial Officer: Rick, Kari A.)
1. Motor Vehicle Registration - Gross Weight Exceeds Registered Limit
None
2. Drove .5 hr past the 11 hour rule
Guilty
08/13/2008 Disposition (Judicial Officer: Rick, Kari A.)
1. Motor Vehicle Registration - Gross Weight Exceeds Registered Limit
2. Drove .5 hr past the 11 hour rule
Convicted
08/13/2008 Sentenced (Judicial Officer: Rick, Kari A.)
2. Drove .5 hr past the 11 hour rule
Fees - Adult: (Grand Total: $185.00)
Due 08/13/2008
Fine: $100.00
Fees: (Fees Total: $85.00)
Criminal Surcharge: $75.00
Law Library: $10.00
Guilty. Plea agreement.
Now he will say it's only minor and that somehow makes it okay.
Appleton?
How can that be?
His blog claims he lives in North Minneapolis.
Phony
Has anyone looked into the background of brother Judd?
ah ha, a few skeletons in the closet, Johnny?
Oh, you got me...driving half an hour longer than I was supposed to while keeping an honest log book! How will I ever live this down, ha ha.
We were talking about your brother, dip!
I like the idea that all the friends Watkins, the relatives are all showing how Tom and Jon aren't at all sorry for what they did. They are only sorry they got caught. I wonder how that will play out at their sentencing on MARCH 10, 2009! I wonder if the courtroom will be FILLED with victims speaking at open mic about how they had been ridiculed for the amounts they paid in damage deposits. How they had been cajoled by the Balkos family members and friends that there were no real victims except Tom and Jon. I wonder how easy it is to prove who actually does post here. I wonder if the prosecuting attorney is having a field day on these blogs determining who posts what.. just to make sure that Tom and Jon get the stiffest sentence. I wonder!!!
Please send me any information you have about John Hoff, aside from his blog. We are drafting a lawsuit against him and need all the information about his crazy behavior in all the states he has lived. Why does ND hate him? Anyone know him when he went by the name John Hoffman? We need information to show the court that he's a antagonistic lunatic. And that he's using his position on the Jordan Community Council to obtain non-public information. Any information will be appreciated.
mnlawmoose@yahoo.com
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